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==Related==
 
==Related==
 
* [[fake scandals]]
 
* [[fake scandals]]
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* [[irrelevancies]]: statements that are true but don't support the point they seem to be supporting
 
==Index==
 
==Index==
 
* {{l/sub|America is a Christian nation}}
 
* {{l/sub|America is a Christian nation}}
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* {{l/sub|anchor babies}} [http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2015/08/23/there-is-no-anchor-baby-problem/ nope] and [https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/immigration/report/2015/11/09/125182/turning-our-backs-on-the-14th-amendment/ nope] ([https://plus.google.com/u/0/+CindyBrown/posts/4J2RsPjcW8g via])
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* {{l/sub|Cis is a slur}}.
 
* {{l/sub|communism is evil}}
 
* {{l/sub|communism is evil}}
* {{l/sub|hybrid cars cause more pollution than standard cars}}
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* {{l/sub|electric cars pollute more than standard cars}}
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* {{l/sub|gun ownership makes you safer}}
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* {{l/sub|hybrid cars pollute more than standard cars}}
 
* {{l/sub|life is fair}}
 
* {{l/sub|life is fair}}
* {{l/sub|racism is over}}
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* {{l/sub|Nazis were socialists}}
* {{l/sub|reverse racism}}
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* {{l/sub|Nazis defunded police}}
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* [[racism]]:
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** {{l/sub|racism is over}}
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** {{l/sub|reverse racism}}
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** {{l/sub|police abuse is not racially biased}}
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* {{l/sub|the Democrats are more racist than the Republicans}}
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* {{l/sub|Wikipedia is not a reliable source}}: see [https://scholar.social/@eleanorkonik/102549679336560706] for rebuttal
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* '''history''':
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** {{l/sub|Nazis were socialists}} [http://www.politicususa.com/2012/09/12/hitler-explains-gop-wrong-national-socialism.html nope], [http://historyandpolitics77.blogspot.com/2011/03/we-are-socialists-debunked.html nope], and [http://europeanhistory.about.com/od/germanyandprussia/fl/Was-Adolf-Hitler-a-Socialist-Debunking-a-Historical-Myth.htm nope] ([https://plus.google.com/+SteveSIsBack/posts/KW6TUENLTBj via])
 
* '''government''':
 
* '''government''':
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** {{l/sub|government cannot create jobs}}
 
** {{l/sub|government has a monopoly on force}}
 
** {{l/sub|government has a monopoly on force}}
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** {{l/sub|government is the problem}}
 
** {{l/sub|government is the source of all political power}}
 
** {{l/sub|government is the source of all political power}}
 
** {{l/sub|government is the source of all oppression}}
 
** {{l/sub|government is the source of all oppression}}
 
** {{l/sub|government is violence}}
 
** {{l/sub|government is violence}}
 
** {{l/sub|government regulation stifles free markets}}
 
** {{l/sub|government regulation stifles free markets}}
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** {{l/sub|government should be eliminated}}
 
** {{l/sub|monopolies would not exist without government}}
 
** {{l/sub|monopolies would not exist without government}}
 
** {{l/sub|the Post Office has fallen into disuse}}
 
** {{l/sub|the Post Office has fallen into disuse}}
 
** {{l/sub|the Post Office is unprofitable}}
 
** {{l/sub|the Post Office is unprofitable}}
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** {{l/sub|there has never been a successful socialist state}}
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** {{l/sub|there are no sustainable energy sources}}
 
** '''US government'''
 
** '''US government'''
 
*** {{l/sub|Social Security is bankrupt}} [https://plus.google.com/102282887764745350285/posts/XjbYSbJVDNz]
 
*** {{l/sub|Social Security is bankrupt}} [https://plus.google.com/102282887764745350285/posts/XjbYSbJVDNz]
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*** '''Trump''' administration (2017-)
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**** {{l/sub|Trump did not open concentration camps}}
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**** {{l/sub|Concentration camp prisoners are treated very well}}
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**** Need data: "The difference is these people can agree to be deported. They don’t have to stay there, they aren’t being beaten nor murdered. They aren’t being starved or persecuted based on their race or religion." [https://twitter.com/JaneBurgessAZ/status/1141212387766202368 Jane Burgess, Tweet, 2019-06-19]
 
*** '''{{l/sub|Obama}} administration''' (2009-2016)
 
*** '''{{l/sub|Obama}} administration''' (2009-2016)
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**** {{l/sub|Democrats had a supermajority for two years}}
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**** {{l/sub|Obama is a socialist}}
 
**** '''{{l/sub|Obamacare}}'''
 
**** '''{{l/sub|Obamacare}}'''
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**** {{l/sub|the IRS targeted conservatives}}
 
**** {{l/sub|voter fraud is a serious problem}}
 
**** {{l/sub|voter fraud is a serious problem}}
**** {{l/sub|federal debt is now at an all-time high}} - a claim that can be made whenever there is a deficit
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**** {{l/sub|Republicans didn't protest when Obama won the election}}
**** {{l/sub|the IRS targeted conservatives}}
 
 
*** '''{{l/sub|Clinton}} administration''' (1993-2000)
 
*** '''{{l/sub|Clinton}} administration''' (1993-2000)
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* '''health'''
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** {{l/sub|transgendrity}} (aka "transgenderism")
 
* '''public policy'''
 
* '''public policy'''
 
** {{l/sub|attempts to fight poverty have never worked}}
 
** {{l/sub|attempts to fight poverty have never worked}}
 
** {{l/sub|complaints about economic disparity are just greed}}
 
** {{l/sub|complaints about economic disparity are just greed}}
** {{l/sub|helping people makes them dependent}}
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** {{l/sub|global warming predictions have failed}}
** {{l/sub|liberal policies put us more in debt}}
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** '''government aid''':
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*** {{l/sub|giving people money makes them work less}}
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*** {{l/sub|helping people makes them dependent}}
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*** {{l/sub|people need incentives to work}}
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** {{l/sub|gun control doesn't work}}
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** {{l/sub|hammers are more dangerous than guns}} (see [http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2013/01/03/fbi-more-people-killed-with-hammers-and-clubs-each-year-than-with-rifles/ Breitbart] and Danny Killo's comment "Hammers kill more people than guns each year!  Should we outlaw hammers?" [https://plus.google.com/102282887764745350285/posts/WxPfaz7zHAA here]. [http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-deaths-and-injuries-statistics/ gun stats])
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** {{l/sub|homelessness is a choice}}
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** {{l/sub|liberal policies are bad for the economy}}
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*** {{l/sub|liberal policies put us more in debt}}
 
*** {{l/sub|liberal policies destroyed Detroit}}
 
*** {{l/sub|liberal policies destroyed Detroit}}
 
*** {{l/sub|liberal policies ruined California}}
 
*** {{l/sub|liberal policies ruined California}}
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*** {{l/sub|liberal policies will ruin California}}
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** {{l/sub|markets regulate themselves}}
 
** {{l/sub|net neutrality means government control of information on the internet}}
 
** {{l/sub|net neutrality means government control of information on the internet}}
 
** {{l/sub|raising the minimum wage hurts jobs}}
 
** {{l/sub|raising the minimum wage hurts jobs}}
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** {{l/sub|raising the minimum wage would raise prices}}
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** {{l/sub|reducing access to abortion services reduces abortions}}
 
** {{l/sub|Republicans are better at creating jobs than Democrats}}
 
** {{l/sub|Republicans are better at creating jobs than Democrats}}
 
** {{l/sub|Social Security is a Ponzi scheme}}: see {{l/ip|US/Social Security/myths}}
 
** {{l/sub|Social Security is a Ponzi scheme}}: see {{l/ip|US/Social Security/myths}}
 
** {{l/sub|socialism leads to poverty}}
 
** {{l/sub|socialism leads to poverty}}
** {{l/sub|taxing the rich kills jobs}}
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** Taxation:
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*** {{l/sub|taxation is theft}}
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*** {{l/sub|taxing the rich kills jobs}}
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*** {{l/sub|moving into a higher tax bracket can mean you take home less}}
 
** {{l/sub|the federal budget should be balanced}}
 
** {{l/sub|the federal budget should be balanced}}
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** {{l/sub|unemployment is due to laziness}}
  
 
==Too Far Out==
 
==Too Far Out==
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* Homosexuality is bad.
 
* Homosexuality is bad.
 
** [https://plus.google.com/117466634587465429409/about Glen Cauthon]: "Media making it appear so "Natural" and bombarding us with homosexuality every day..in sports, in politics, in movies.  They want a generation of homosexual children who will not breed.  And it's even more than that.  The "population explosion problem" is just a hoax.  It's not even believed by those who started it.  Only by the dip-sticks in Congress and people like Ted Turner, Bill Gates, Oprah "Bells In Her Fry" Winfrey and so on....and take a good look at those rich men and women."
 
** [https://plus.google.com/117466634587465429409/about Glen Cauthon]: "Media making it appear so "Natural" and bombarding us with homosexuality every day..in sports, in politics, in movies.  They want a generation of homosexual children who will not breed.  And it's even more than that.  The "population explosion problem" is just a hoax.  It's not even believed by those who started it.  Only by the dip-sticks in Congress and people like Ted Turner, Bill Gates, Oprah "Bells In Her Fry" Winfrey and so on....and take a good look at those rich men and women."
* Myth: global warming is about increasing government control.
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* Global warming is about increasing government control.
 
** See comment [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102227800261183349957/posts/ckWdpicPAbT here] -- "Global warming is now relabeled as climate change but it's always been about more government control.  Bernie's policies of coercive energy restrictions will further drive this country into depression.  Energy is what allows us to be more productive and debate over the internet instead of digging for grubs for sustenance."
 
** See comment [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102227800261183349957/posts/ckWdpicPAbT here] -- "Global warming is now relabeled as climate change but it's always been about more government control.  Bernie's policies of coercive energy restrictions will further drive this country into depression.  Energy is what allows us to be more productive and debate over the internet instead of digging for grubs for sustenance."
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* There are no morals without God.
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** Example: Frank Black's comments [https://plus.google.com/u/0/+AdmiralTaptap/posts/Fenjq52Pric here] (slightly edited): "moral absolutes? Under God yes, without God no. You atheists believe you have the ability to distinguish good from evil right from wrong! But you can not. God gave you the innate ability to know right from wrong. With out God's Commandments and Law's there is no difference. So all thing all permissible and no consequences for the atheist actions! So if your an Atheist then you cannot obey God's laws and Commandments! If you do then you Acknowledge that there is a God and you accept and follow his Commandments! Your comments are contradictory itself!"
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* Obama is on the side of the terrorists.
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** Example: http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2015/04/19/terrorists-dont-attack-us-to-not-embarrass-obama/
  
 
==Links==
 
==Links==
Some myths CWRE has not yet needed to address:
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For future mining:
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* '''2016-12-18''' [https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LeratoMajikfaerie/posts/NFfVgnJq6qw concern troll repeats anti-trans myths]
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* '''2016-12-13''' [http://www.theestablishment.co/2016/12/13/no-female-trans-athletes-do-not-have-unfair-advantages/ No, Female Trans Athletes Do Not Have Unfair Advantages]
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* '''2016-11-17''' [https://www.buzzfeed.com/krishrach/this-woman-was-told-muslims-dont-condemn-violence-so-she-mad This Woman Was Told Muslims Don’t Condemn Violence, So She Made A List To Show They Do] - myth: Muslims don't condemn Muslim violence
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* '''2016-11-10''' [http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/paul-ryan-says-medicare-privatization-is-on.html Paul Ryan Says Medicare Privatization Is On] ([https://plus.google.com/u/0/+CindyBrown/posts/B163rpH4r1K via])
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* [http://blacklivesmatter.com/11-major-misconceptions-about-the-black-lives-matter-movement/ 11 Major Misconceptions About the Black Lives Matter Movement]
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* '''2016-08-03''' [http://boingboing.net/2016/08/03/mexico-us-illegal-migration-ha.html Mexico-US illegal migration has been at zero for 8 years, and other eye-opening facts]
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* '''2016-07-08''' [http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-defilippis-hughes-gun-myths-debunked-20160708-snap-story.html 5 arguments against gun control — and why they are all wrong]
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* '''2016-06-22''' [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tax-rate_us_576ade9ae4b0c0252e781158 Donald Trump Keeps Calling The U.S. The ‘Highest Taxed Nation.’ It’s Not Even Close.] ([https://plus.google.com/u/0/+CindyBrown/posts/MaiMNHtF4aj via])
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* '''2016-05-24''' [http://cyclingfallacies.com/en/ Cycling Fallacies]
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* '''2015-10-26''' [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102282887764745350285/posts/GjMGuRQqWJ2 The post reshared here] has a gold-mine of myths and misconceptions about gender and transsexuality; more [https://plus.google.com/102282887764745350285/posts/Zc5TU3nbZE1 here]
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* '''2015-04-03''' [http://werehistory.org/ten-myths/ Ten Myths in American History]
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*# Myth: The Battle of Bunker Hill, and the Revolution in general, was won by untested but brave militiamen.
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*# Myth: The Founding Fathers based their political beliefs in Christian doctrine.
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*# Myth: With the Louisiana Purchase, the United States acquired a vast tract of land for almost no cost.
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*# Myth: Christian doctrine in America always stood in opposition to moral crimes like slavery.
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*# Myth: The heroes of American history have typically been "Average Joes."
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*# Myth: Immediately after the Civil War, most white Americans were appalled by the rise of the Ku Klux Klan
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*# Myth: Cowboys were brave individualists, freed from the confines of government intervention and big business.
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*# Myth: The Medal of Honor has always been nearly impossible to come by, awarded to only the most heroic soldiers.
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*# Myth: African American service in WWI paved the way for equality in America.
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*# Myth: Those who call for change in America do not share its core values.
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* '''2015-02-26''' [http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/feb/26/fact-checks-behind-daily-shows-50-fox-news-lies/ The fact-checks behind 'The Daily Show's' 50 Fox news 'lies']
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* '''2015-02-23''' [https://www.newstatesman.com/future-proof/2015/02/sex-isn-t-chromosomes-story-century-misconceptions-about-x-y Sex isn’t chromosomes: the story of a century of misconceptions about X & Y] ([https://mastodon.social/users/plsburydoughboy/statuses/99082098228566754 via])
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* '''2014-12-06''' [http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/12/myths-non-binary-people/ 10 Myths About Non-Binary People It's Time to Unlearn]
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* '''2014-11-18''' [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brynn-tannehill/myths-about-transition-regrets_b_6160626.html Myths About Transition Regrets]
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* '''2014-08-04''' [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brynn-tannehill/fighting-back-against-ant_b_5633450.html Fighting Back Against Anti-Transgender Talking Points]
 
* '''2014-03-06''' [http://neutrois.me/2014/03/06/5-myths-about-genderqueer-transition/ 5 Myths About Non-Binary Transition]
 
* '''2014-03-06''' [http://neutrois.me/2014/03/06/5-myths-about-genderqueer-transition/ 5 Myths About Non-Binary Transition]
* '''2014-12-06''' [http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/12/myths-non-binary-people/ 10 Myths About Non-Binary People It's Time to Unlearn]
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* '''2012-12-11''' [http://thedailybanter.com/2012/12/how-to-quickly-prove-a-libertarian-wrong/ How to Quickly Prove a Libertarian Wrong]: 5 [[marketist]] myths about capitalism (although many marketists use #5 as an argument ''for'' capitalism)
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* '''2012-05-15''' [http://www.cracked.com/article_19864_6-ridiculous-lies-you-believe-about-founding-america_p2.html 6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding of America]
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* '''2002-03''' [http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2002/03/1491/302445/ 1491]: myths about pre-Columbian America
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* [https://www.scarymommy.com/why-is-there-this-sudden-trans-kids-trend/ Why Is There A Sudden Trans-Kids Trend?]: because "They are less terrified of all of you than I was."
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* [https://www.scarymommy.com/its-okay-dont-understand-transgender-identity/ Someone Else’s Gender Identity Isn’t About You] ([https://pluspora.com/posts/fa9c6ac0f10401377d7a005056264835 h/t])
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**  Gender dysphoria is a real condition, and it is not a mental illness.
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** There are currently over a million (known) trans individuals in America.
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** Few to no transgender people "change their mind" after coming out.
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** Affirming a trans child’s identity is necessary to avoid psychological decompensation, depression, suicidal ideation with attempts, and more.
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** Myth: “Kids are too young to make this decision!”

Latest revision as of 20:43, 4 May 2023

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Index

Too Far Out

CWRE considers the following myths to be sufficiently whacked that they are low on the priority list for refuting:

  • Evolution is a lie. / The Earth is 6,000 years old. / Humans have no genetic relationship to monkeys. -- see Issuepedia
  • Public assistance is like slavery. [3]
  • Homosexuality is bad.
    • Glen Cauthon: "Media making it appear so "Natural" and bombarding us with homosexuality every day..in sports, in politics, in movies. They want a generation of homosexual children who will not breed. And it's even more than that. The "population explosion problem" is just a hoax. It's not even believed by those who started it. Only by the dip-sticks in Congress and people like Ted Turner, Bill Gates, Oprah "Bells In Her Fry" Winfrey and so on....and take a good look at those rich men and women."
  • Global warming is about increasing government control.
    • See comment here -- "Global warming is now relabeled as climate change but it's always been about more government control. Bernie's policies of coercive energy restrictions will further drive this country into depression. Energy is what allows us to be more productive and debate over the internet instead of digging for grubs for sustenance."
  • There are no morals without God.
    • Example: Frank Black's comments here (slightly edited): "moral absolutes? Under God yes, without God no. You atheists believe you have the ability to distinguish good from evil right from wrong! But you can not. God gave you the innate ability to know right from wrong. With out God's Commandments and Law's there is no difference. So all thing all permissible and no consequences for the atheist actions! So if your an Atheist then you cannot obey God's laws and Commandments! If you do then you Acknowledge that there is a God and you accept and follow his Commandments! Your comments are contradictory itself!"
  • Obama is on the side of the terrorists.

Links

For future mining: