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==Related==
 
==Related==
 
* [[fake scandals]]
 
* [[fake scandals]]
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* [[irrelevancies]]: statements that are true but don't support the point they seem to be supporting
 
==Index==
 
==Index==
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* {{l/sub|America is a Christian nation}}
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* {{l/sub|anchor babies}} [http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2015/08/23/there-is-no-anchor-baby-problem/ nope] and [https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/immigration/report/2015/11/09/125182/turning-our-backs-on-the-14th-amendment/ nope] ([https://plus.google.com/u/0/+CindyBrown/posts/4J2RsPjcW8g via])
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* {{l/sub|Cis is a slur}}.
 
* {{l/sub|communism is evil}}
 
* {{l/sub|communism is evil}}
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* {{l/sub|electric cars pollute more than standard cars}}
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* {{l/sub|gun ownership makes you safer}}
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* {{l/sub|hybrid cars pollute more than standard cars}}
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* {{l/sub|life is fair}}
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* {{l/sub|Nazis were socialists}}
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* {{l/sub|Nazis defunded police}}
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* [[racism]]:
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** {{l/sub|racism is over}}
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** {{l/sub|reverse racism}}
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** {{l/sub|police abuse is not racially biased}}
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* {{l/sub|the Democrats are more racist than the Republicans}}
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* {{l/sub|Wikipedia is not a reliable source}}: see [https://scholar.social/@eleanorkonik/102549679336560706] for rebuttal
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* '''history''':
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** {{l/sub|Nazis were socialists}} [http://www.politicususa.com/2012/09/12/hitler-explains-gop-wrong-national-socialism.html nope], [http://historyandpolitics77.blogspot.com/2011/03/we-are-socialists-debunked.html nope], and [http://europeanhistory.about.com/od/germanyandprussia/fl/Was-Adolf-Hitler-a-Socialist-Debunking-a-Historical-Myth.htm nope] ([https://plus.google.com/+SteveSIsBack/posts/KW6TUENLTBj via])
 
* '''government''':
 
* '''government''':
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** {{l/sub|government cannot create jobs}}
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** {{l/sub|government has a monopoly on force}}
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** {{l/sub|government is the problem}}
 
** {{l/sub|government is the source of all political power}}
 
** {{l/sub|government is the source of all political power}}
 
** {{l/sub|government is the source of all oppression}}
 
** {{l/sub|government is the source of all oppression}}
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** {{l/sub|government has a monopoly on force}}
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** {{l/sub|government is violence}}
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** {{l/sub|government regulation stifles free markets}}
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** {{l/sub|government should be eliminated}}
 
** {{l/sub|monopolies would not exist without government}}
 
** {{l/sub|monopolies would not exist without government}}
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** {{l/sub|the Post Office has fallen into disuse}}
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** {{l/sub|the Post Office is unprofitable}}
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** {{l/sub|there has never been a successful socialist state}}
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** {{l/sub|there are no sustainable energy sources}}
 
** '''US government'''
 
** '''US government'''
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*** '''Obama administration''':
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*** {{l/sub|Social Security is bankrupt}} [https://plus.google.com/102282887764745350285/posts/XjbYSbJVDNz]
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**** {{l/sub|federal debt under Obama is out of control}}
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*** '''Trump''' administration (2017-)
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**** {{l/sub|federal debt is now at an all-time high}}
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**** {{l/sub|Trump did not open concentration camps}}
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**** {{l/sub|spending under Obama is out of control}}
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**** {{l/sub|Concentration camp prisoners are treated very well}}
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*** {{l/sub|voter fraud is a serious problem}}
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**** Need data: "The difference is these people can agree to be deported. They don’t have to stay there, they aren’t being beaten nor murdered. They aren’t being starved or persecuted based on their race or religion." [https://twitter.com/JaneBurgessAZ/status/1141212387766202368 Jane Burgess, Tweet, 2019-06-19]
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*** '''{{l/sub|Obama}} administration''' (2009-2016)
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**** {{l/sub|Democrats had a supermajority for two years}}
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**** {{l/sub|Obama is a socialist}}
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**** '''{{l/sub|Obamacare}}'''
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**** {{l/sub|the IRS targeted conservatives}}
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**** {{l/sub|voter fraud is a serious problem}}
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**** {{l/sub|Republicans didn't protest when Obama won the election}}
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*** '''{{l/sub|Clinton}} administration''' (1993-2000)
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* '''health'''
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** {{l/sub|transgendrity}} (aka "transgenderism")
 
* '''public policy'''
 
* '''public policy'''
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** {{l/sub|helping people makes them dependent}}
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** {{l/sub|attempts to fight poverty have never worked}}
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** {{l/sub|liberal policies put us more in debt}}
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** {{l/sub|complaints about economic disparity are just greed}}
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** {{l/sub|complaints about income inequality are just greed}}
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** {{l/sub|global warming predictions have failed}}
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** '''government aid''':
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*** {{l/sub|giving people money makes them work less}}
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*** {{l/sub|helping people makes them dependent}}
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*** {{l/sub|people need incentives to work}}
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** {{l/sub|gun control doesn't work}}
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** {{l/sub|hammers are more dangerous than guns}} (see [http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2013/01/03/fbi-more-people-killed-with-hammers-and-clubs-each-year-than-with-rifles/ Breitbart] and Danny Killo's comment "Hammers kill more people than guns each year!  Should we outlaw hammers?" [https://plus.google.com/102282887764745350285/posts/WxPfaz7zHAA here]. [http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-deaths-and-injuries-statistics/ gun stats])
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** {{l/sub|homelessness is a choice}}
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** {{l/sub|liberal policies are bad for the economy}}
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*** {{l/sub|liberal policies put us more in debt}}
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*** {{l/sub|liberal policies destroyed Detroit}}
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*** {{l/sub|liberal policies ruined California}}
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*** {{l/sub|liberal policies will ruin California}}
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** {{l/sub|markets regulate themselves}}
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** {{l/sub|net neutrality means government control of information on the internet}}
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** {{l/sub|raising the minimum wage hurts jobs}}
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** {{l/sub|raising the minimum wage would raise prices}}
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** {{l/sub|reducing access to abortion services reduces abortions}}
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** {{l/sub|Republicans are better at creating jobs than Democrats}}
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** {{l/sub|Social Security is a Ponzi scheme}}: see {{l/ip|US/Social Security/myths}}
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** {{l/sub|socialism leads to poverty}}
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** Taxation:
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*** {{l/sub|taxation is theft}}
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*** {{l/sub|taxing the rich kills jobs}}
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*** {{l/sub|moving into a higher tax bracket can mean you take home less}}
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** {{l/sub|the federal budget should be balanced}}
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** {{l/sub|unemployment is due to laziness}}
  
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* {{l/sub|racism is over}}
 
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* {{l/sub|reverse racism}}
 
 
==Too Far Out==
 
==Too Far Out==
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CWRE considers the following myths too non-reality-based to even be worth refuting, although we might do it anyway:
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CWRE considers the following myths to be sufficiently whacked that they are low on the priority list for refuting:
 
* Evolution is a lie. / The Earth is 6,000 years old. / Humans have no genetic relationship to monkeys. -- see {{issuepedia|Young Earth creationism}}
 
* Evolution is a lie. / The Earth is 6,000 years old. / Humans have no genetic relationship to monkeys. -- see {{issuepedia|Young Earth creationism}}
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* Obama is a Muslim / Kenyan / not American. -- see {{issuepedia|Barack Obama/Muslim smear}}
 
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* Obama is a socialist.
 
 
* Public assistance is like slavery. [http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2014/12/21/clueless-actress-public-assistance-is-just-like-slavery/]
 
* Public assistance is like slavery. [http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2014/12/21/clueless-actress-public-assistance-is-just-like-slavery/]
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* Homosexuality is bad.
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** [https://plus.google.com/117466634587465429409/about Glen Cauthon]: "Media making it appear so "Natural" and bombarding us with homosexuality every day..in sports, in politics, in movies.  They want a generation of homosexual children who will not breed.  And it's even more than that.  The "population explosion problem" is just a hoax.  It's not even believed by those who started it.  Only by the dip-sticks in Congress and people like Ted Turner, Bill Gates, Oprah "Bells In Her Fry" Winfrey and so on....and take a good look at those rich men and women."
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* Global warming is about increasing government control.
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** See comment [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102227800261183349957/posts/ckWdpicPAbT here] -- "Global warming is now relabeled as climate change but it's always been about more government control.  Bernie's policies of coercive energy restrictions will further drive this country into depression.  Energy is what allows us to be more productive and debate over the internet instead of digging for grubs for sustenance."
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* There are no morals without God.
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** Example: Frank Black's comments [https://plus.google.com/u/0/+AdmiralTaptap/posts/Fenjq52Pric here] (slightly edited): "moral absolutes? Under God yes, without God no. You atheists believe you have the ability to distinguish good from evil right from wrong! But you can not. God gave you the innate ability to know right from wrong. With out God's Commandments and Law's there is no difference. So all thing all permissible and no consequences for the atheist actions! So if your an Atheist then you cannot obey God's laws and Commandments! If you do then you Acknowledge that there is a God and you accept and follow his Commandments! Your comments are contradictory itself!"
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* Obama is on the side of the terrorists.
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** Example: http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2015/04/19/terrorists-dont-attack-us-to-not-embarrass-obama/
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==Links==
 
==Links==
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* '''2013-03-24''' [http://www.forwardprogressives.com/debunking-almost-every-republican-lie-against-president-obama/ Debunking Almost Every Republican Lie Against President Obama]: covers the above myths and more
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For future mining:
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* '''2014-11-26''' [http://www.nationalmemo.com/5-things-tell-republican-relatives-thanksgiving-dinner/ 5 Things To Tell Your Republican Relatives At Thanksgiving Dinner]
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* '''2016-12-18''' [https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LeratoMajikfaerie/posts/NFfVgnJq6qw concern troll repeats anti-trans myths]
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*# More net jobs have been created under Obama than under both Bushes combined.
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* '''2016-12-13''' [http://www.theestablishment.co/2016/12/13/no-female-trans-athletes-do-not-have-unfair-advantages/ No, Female Trans Athletes Do Not Have Unfair Advantages]
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*# If Obama had grown spending the way Reagan or W. did, we’d be much better off.
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* '''2016-11-17''' [https://www.buzzfeed.com/krishrach/this-woman-was-told-muslims-dont-condemn-violence-so-she-mad This Woman Was Told Muslims Don’t Condemn Violence, So She Made A List To Show They Do] - myth: Muslims don't condemn Muslim violence
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*# We need more [[Fake scandals/Solyndra|Solyndra]]s.
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* '''2016-11-10''' [http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/paul-ryan-says-medicare-privatization-is-on.html Paul Ryan Says Medicare Privatization Is On] ([https://plus.google.com/u/0/+CindyBrown/posts/B163rpH4r1K via])
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*# Republicans are paying the richest to get richest-er.
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* [http://blacklivesmatter.com/11-major-misconceptions-about-the-black-lives-matter-movement/ 11 Major Misconceptions About the Black Lives Matter Movement]
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*# The Affordable Care Act makes you freer – even if you hate it.
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* '''2016-08-03''' [http://boingboing.net/2016/08/03/mexico-us-illegal-migration-ha.html Mexico-US illegal migration has been at zero for 8 years, and other eye-opening facts]
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* '''2014-11-29''' [http://sonsoflibertymedia.com/2014/11/900-documented-examples-obamas-lawbreaking-lying-corruption-cronyism-hypocrisy-waste/ 900 Documented Examples of Obama's Lawbreaking, Lying, Corruption, Cronyism, Hypocrisy & Waste]: some of these may be true; sources need to be checked
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* '''2016-07-08''' [http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-defilippis-hughes-gun-myths-debunked-20160708-snap-story.html 5 arguments against gun control — and why they are all wrong]
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* '''2014-12-06''' [http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/12/myths-non-binary-people/ 10 Myths About Non-Binary People It’s Time to Unlearn]: some myths CWRE has not yet needed to address
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* '''2016-06-22''' [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tax-rate_us_576ade9ae4b0c0252e781158 Donald Trump Keeps Calling The U.S. The ‘Highest Taxed Nation.’ It’s Not Even Close.] ([https://plus.google.com/u/0/+CindyBrown/posts/MaiMNHtF4aj via])
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==Images==
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* '''2016-05-24''' [http://cyclingfallacies.com/en/ Cycling Fallacies]
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* '''2015-10-26''' [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102282887764745350285/posts/GjMGuRQqWJ2 The post reshared here] has a gold-mine of myths and misconceptions about gender and transsexuality; more [https://plus.google.com/102282887764745350285/posts/Zc5TU3nbZE1 here]
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File:Presvacay.PNG | number of vacation days taken by Obama and his three predecessors, from CBS News
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* '''2015-04-03''' [http://werehistory.org/ten-myths/ Ten Myths in American History]
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*# Myth: The Battle of Bunker Hill, and the Revolution in general, was won by untested but brave militiamen.
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*# Myth: The Founding Fathers based their political beliefs in Christian doctrine.
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*# Myth: With the Louisiana Purchase, the United States acquired a vast tract of land for almost no cost.
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*# Myth: Christian doctrine in America always stood in opposition to moral crimes like slavery.
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*# Myth: The heroes of American history have typically been "Average Joes."
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*# Myth: Immediately after the Civil War, most white Americans were appalled by the rise of the Ku Klux Klan
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*# Myth: Cowboys were brave individualists, freed from the confines of government intervention and big business.
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*# Myth: The Medal of Honor has always been nearly impossible to come by, awarded to only the most heroic soldiers.
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*# Myth: African American service in WWI paved the way for equality in America.
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*# Myth: Those who call for change in America do not share its core values.
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* '''2015-02-26''' [http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/feb/26/fact-checks-behind-daily-shows-50-fox-news-lies/ The fact-checks behind 'The Daily Show's' 50 Fox news 'lies']
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* '''2015-02-23''' [https://www.newstatesman.com/future-proof/2015/02/sex-isn-t-chromosomes-story-century-misconceptions-about-x-y Sex isn’t chromosomes: the story of a century of misconceptions about X & Y] ([https://mastodon.social/users/plsburydoughboy/statuses/99082098228566754 via])
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* '''2014-12-06''' [http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/12/myths-non-binary-people/ 10 Myths About Non-Binary People It's Time to Unlearn]
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* '''2014-11-18''' [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brynn-tannehill/myths-about-transition-regrets_b_6160626.html Myths About Transition Regrets]
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* '''2014-08-04''' [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brynn-tannehill/fighting-back-against-ant_b_5633450.html Fighting Back Against Anti-Transgender Talking Points]
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* '''2014-03-06''' [http://neutrois.me/2014/03/06/5-myths-about-genderqueer-transition/ 5 Myths About Non-Binary Transition]
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* '''2012-12-11''' [http://thedailybanter.com/2012/12/how-to-quickly-prove-a-libertarian-wrong/ How to Quickly Prove a Libertarian Wrong]: 5 [[marketist]] myths about capitalism (although many marketists use #5 as an argument ''for'' capitalism)
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* '''2012-05-15''' [http://www.cracked.com/article_19864_6-ridiculous-lies-you-believe-about-founding-america_p2.html 6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding of America]
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* '''2002-03''' [http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2002/03/1491/302445/ 1491]: myths about pre-Columbian America
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* [https://www.scarymommy.com/why-is-there-this-sudden-trans-kids-trend/ Why Is There A Sudden Trans-Kids Trend?]: because "They are less terrified of all of you than I was."
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* [https://www.scarymommy.com/its-okay-dont-understand-transgender-identity/ Someone Else’s Gender Identity Isn’t About You] ([https://pluspora.com/posts/fa9c6ac0f10401377d7a005056264835 h/t])
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**  Gender dysphoria is a real condition, and it is not a mental illness.
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** There are currently over a million (known) trans individuals in America.
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** Few to no transgender people "change their mind" after coming out.
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** Affirming a trans child’s identity is necessary to avoid psychological decompensation, depression, suicidal ideation with attempts, and more.
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** Myth: “Kids are too young to make this decision!”

Latest revision as of 20:43, 4 May 2023

Related

Index

Too Far Out

CWRE considers the following myths to be sufficiently whacked that they are low on the priority list for refuting:

  • Evolution is a lie. / The Earth is 6,000 years old. / Humans have no genetic relationship to monkeys. -- see Issuepedia
  • Public assistance is like slavery. [3]
  • Homosexuality is bad.
    • Glen Cauthon: "Media making it appear so "Natural" and bombarding us with homosexuality every day..in sports, in politics, in movies. They want a generation of homosexual children who will not breed. And it's even more than that. The "population explosion problem" is just a hoax. It's not even believed by those who started it. Only by the dip-sticks in Congress and people like Ted Turner, Bill Gates, Oprah "Bells In Her Fry" Winfrey and so on....and take a good look at those rich men and women."
  • Global warming is about increasing government control.
    • See comment here -- "Global warming is now relabeled as climate change but it's always been about more government control. Bernie's policies of coercive energy restrictions will further drive this country into depression. Energy is what allows us to be more productive and debate over the internet instead of digging for grubs for sustenance."
  • There are no morals without God.
    • Example: Frank Black's comments here (slightly edited): "moral absolutes? Under God yes, without God no. You atheists believe you have the ability to distinguish good from evil right from wrong! But you can not. God gave you the innate ability to know right from wrong. With out God's Commandments and Law's there is no difference. So all thing all permissible and no consequences for the atheist actions! So if your an Atheist then you cannot obey God's laws and Commandments! If you do then you Acknowledge that there is a God and you accept and follow his Commandments! Your comments are contradictory itself!"
  • Obama is on the side of the terrorists.

Links

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