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==The Myth==
 
==The Myth==
Even though [[myths/liberal policies ruined California|liberal policies have worked well in California]], right-wingers are convinced that those policies will eventually ruin it.
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Even though [[myths/liberal policies ruined California|liberal policies have worked well in California]], right-wingers are still convinced that those policies will eventually ruin it.
 
===Examples===
 
===Examples===
Citing the "World of Hurt" article below, J. Michael Krivyanski said<ref name=gplus1 />:
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* "You people defending California crack me up.  For many years California had the largest economy in the country.  It was the 9th largest economy in the world.  Now?  North Dakota, Colorado and Texas all have larger economies.  It's not a good trend and many expect it will get worse.  Does anyone in that state understand economics?  Unions aren't an issue since the makes up less than 5 percent of the workforce.  Why is the current trend for businesses to leave California or not go there in the first place?  Your governor is...to say the least...not business friendly.  Your state government is very corrupt, you have high taxes and stifling regulations.  You pay too much for social programs you can't afford.  Wages are artificially high.  And the best anyone can do is act like spoiled children and say "Well let them go I don't want them here anyway."  Year to year the California economy gets worse.  It's a trend that is not going to change any time soon.Texas is happy to take all the businesses that leave California and has really benefited from it."<ref name=gplus1 />
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You people defending California crack me up.  For many years California had the largest economy in the country.  It was the 9th largest economy in the world.  Now?  North Dakota, Colorado and Texas all have larger economies.  It's not a good trend and many expect it will get worse.  Does anyone in that state understand economics?  Unions aren't an issue since the makes up less than 5 percent of the workforce.  Why is the current trend for businesses to leave California or not go there in the first place?  Your governor is...to say the least...not business friendly.  Your state government is very corrupt, you have high taxes and stifling regulations.  You pay too much for social programs you can't afford.  Wages are artificially high.  And the best anyone can do is act like spoiled children and say "Well let them go I don't want them here anyway."  Year to year the California economy gets worse.  It's a trend that is not going to change any time soon.Texas is happy to take all the businesses that leave California and has really benefited from it.
 
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* '''2013-03-23''' [http://www.newgeography.com/content/003584-california-a-world-hurt California is in for a World of Hurt]: "Demographic trends themselves are creating a crisis brought about by a population that is simultaneously losing its children and getting older, and to a frightening extent poorer."
 
* '''2013-03-23''' [http://www.newgeography.com/content/003584-california-a-world-hurt California is in for a World of Hurt]: "Demographic trends themselves are creating a crisis brought about by a population that is simultaneously losing its children and getting older, and to a frightening extent poorer."
** Although this link was used as evidence against liberal policies, it actually does not provide any criticism at all (direct or implicit) of those policies.
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==Reality==
** To the extent that it is ''seen'' as a criticism of liberal economics, the logic seems to be based on the myth that {{l/myth|helping people makes them dependent}}.
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All of the accusations made by JMK<ref name=gplus1 /> apply just as easily to accusations that {{l/same|liberal policies ruined California}}, which is a myth.
  
==References==
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Re "California is in for a World of Hurt":
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* Although this link was used<ref name=gplus1 /> as evidence against liberal policies, it actually does not provide any criticism at all (direct or implicit) of those policies.
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* To the extent that it is ''seen'' as a criticism of liberal economics, the logic seems to be based on the myth that {{l/myth|helping people makes them dependent}}.
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===References===
 
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2015-05-23 comment on [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102282887764745350285/posts/ZFwHktYriqz this post]
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'''2015-05-23''' J. Michael Krivyanski's comment on [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102282887764745350285/posts/ZFwHktYriqz this post] (JMK)
 
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Revision as of 20:56, 23 May 2015

Myth: Liberal policies will ruin California.
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This article is under construction and should not be used as a reference. There needs to be a "Reality" section explaining why the claim is a myth.

The Myth

Even though liberal policies have worked well in California, right-wingers are still convinced that those policies will eventually ruin it.

Examples

  • "You people defending California crack me up. For many years California had the largest economy in the country. It was the 9th largest economy in the world. Now? North Dakota, Colorado and Texas all have larger economies. It's not a good trend and many expect it will get worse. Does anyone in that state understand economics? Unions aren't an issue since the makes up less than 5 percent of the workforce. Why is the current trend for businesses to leave California or not go there in the first place? Your governor is...to say the least...not business friendly. Your state government is very corrupt, you have high taxes and stifling regulations. You pay too much for social programs you can't afford. Wages are artificially high. And the best anyone can do is act like spoiled children and say "Well let them go I don't want them here anyway." Year to year the California economy gets worse. It's a trend that is not going to change any time soon.Texas is happy to take all the businesses that leave California and has really benefited from it."[1]
  • 2013-03-23 California is in for a World of Hurt: "Demographic trends themselves are creating a crisis brought about by a population that is simultaneously losing its children and getting older, and to a frightening extent poorer."

Reality

All of the accusations made by JMK[1] apply just as easily to accusations that liberal policies ruined California, which is a myth.

Re "California is in for a World of Hurt":

  • Although this link was used[1] as evidence against liberal policies, it actually does not provide any criticism at all (direct or implicit) of those policies.
  • To the extent that it is seen as a criticism of liberal economics, the logic seems to be based on the myth that helping people makes them dependent.

References

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 2015-05-23 J. Michael Krivyanski's comment on this post (JMK)