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==Claim== | ==Claim== | ||
| − | It is often | + | It is often argued that because women have uteruses and ovaries, a trans woman – who will generally ''not'' have a uterus or ovaries<ref name=medtech /> – must not be really a woman – {{l/myth|trans women are not women|is therefore not "really" a woman}}. |
| − | + | ==Reality== | |
This ignores the large number of undisputed exceptions, including: | This ignores the large number of undisputed exceptions, including: | ||
* {{l/ip|cisgender}} women who have had their uteruses and ovaries removed | * {{l/ip|cisgender}} women who have had their uteruses and ovaries removed | ||
| − | * cisgender women with {{l/wp|complete androgen insensitivity syndrome}} | + | * cisgender women with {{l/wp|complete androgen insensitivity syndrome}}, born without uteruses or ovaries |
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| + | Unless you are willing to deny womanhood to all of these people, you need to explain why they are allowed as exceptions while trans women are not. | ||
| − | + | Of equal importance is that "womanhood" goes way beyond reproduction, and many women (especially feminists) reject the idea that one's gender can be defined by reproductive biology. Even if you just look at "[[biological sex]]", there are many other gender-related characteristics which are ''usually'' aligned by gender but sometimes are not. What really matters, though, is "the largest sex organ": the brain – which is what ultimately defines identity and therefore gender. | |
==Footnote== | ==Footnote== | ||
<references> | <references> | ||
| − | <ref name=medtech>...in large part because medical technology | + | <ref name=medtech>...in large part because medical technology had not until recently made this possible; see {{lr/htyp|uterine transplant/trans}}.</ref> |
</references> | </references> | ||
Latest revision as of 13:37, 10 June 2022
| Irrelevant Comment: “Women have uteruses and ovaries.” |
Claim
It is often argued that because women have uteruses and ovaries, a trans woman – who will generally not have a uterus or ovaries[1] – must not be really a woman – is therefore not "really" a woman.
Reality
This ignores the large number of undisputed exceptions, including:
- cisgender women who have had their uteruses and ovaries removed
- cisgender women with complete androgen insensitivity syndrome, born without uteruses or ovaries
Unless you are willing to deny womanhood to all of these people, you need to explain why they are allowed as exceptions while trans women are not.
Of equal importance is that "womanhood" goes way beyond reproduction, and many women (especially feminists) reject the idea that one's gender can be defined by reproductive biology. Even if you just look at "biological sex", there are many other gender-related characteristics which are usually aligned by gender but sometimes are not. What really matters, though, is "the largest sex organ": the brain – which is what ultimately defines identity and therefore gender.