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* '''2023-05-02''' [https://www.mindingthecampus.org/2023/05/02/wikibias-how-wikipedia-erases-fringe-theories-and-enforces-conformity/ WikiBias: How Wikipedia erases “fringe theories” and enforces conformity] by John Staddon
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* '''2023-05-02''' [https://www.mindingthecampus.org/2023/05/02/wikibias-how-wikipedia-erases-fringe-theories-and-enforces-conformity/ WikiBias: How Wikipedia erases “fringe theories” and enforces conformity] by [[John Staddon]]
 
** via [https://www.facebook.com/john.staddon.10/posts/pfbid0wBfZPXwKynY2wbvEU2LFqoZtxpe1F1obJUbHvELAwVXFP4h3mJJLTUrDxke2VMrwl Facebook]
 
** via [https://www.facebook.com/john.staddon.10/posts/pfbid0wBfZPXwKynY2wbvEU2LFqoZtxpe1F1obJUbHvELAwVXFP4h3mJJLTUrDxke2VMrwl Facebook]
** see also Issuepedia: {{l/ip|User:Woozle/LwaC}}
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=Wikipedia Unfairly Silences Racist Speech=
 
Again with the nonsense...
 
Again with the nonsense...
  
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Rushton was a racist who took money from a fund (and later become president of the fund before his death) that was founded by a racist who hated desegregation and wanted to prove that Black people were "inferior" by claiming his beliefs were backed by "science" (pro-tip: nope). The founder of the fund (which itself spread a pro-eugenics film) even had a trip to Nazi Germany, a jolly time reportedly being had by all.  
 
Rushton was a racist who took money from a fund (and later become president of the fund before his death) that was founded by a racist who hated desegregation and wanted to prove that Black people were "inferior" by claiming his beliefs were backed by "science" (pro-tip: nope). The founder of the fund (which itself spread a pro-eugenics film) even had a trip to Nazi Germany, a jolly time reportedly being had by all.  
  
* RationalWiki: {{l/rw|J. Philippe Rushton}}
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* '''RationalWiki''': {{l/rw|J. Philippe Rushton}}, {{l/rw|Pioneer Fund}}
* RationalWiki: {{l/rw|Pioneer Fund}}
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* '''unDark 2022-12-16''': [https://race.undark.org/articles/drapers-millions-the-philanthropic-wellspring-of-modern-race-science Draper’s Millions: The Philanthropic Wellspring of Modern Race Science]
* unDark 2022-12-16: [https://race.undark.org/articles/drapers-millions-the-philanthropic-wellspring-of-modern-race-science Draper’s Millions: The Philanthropic Wellspring of Modern Race Science]
 
  
 
Charles Murray cited "sources" that were known racists and eugenics.  
 
Charles Murray cited "sources" that were known racists and eugenics.  
  
* RationalWiki: ''{{l/rw|The Bell Curve}}''
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* '''RationalWiki''': ''{{l/rw|The Bell Curve}}''
  
There's a little cabal of racist "scientists" all writing in the same journals, reviewing one another, etc. just as there is with "global warming skepticism" and "gender critical feminism".
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There's a little cabal of racist "scientists" all writing in the same journals, reviewing one another, etc. just as there is with "global warming skepticism" and "[[TERF|gender critical feminism]]".
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==Follow-Up==
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* '''2023-05-15''' [https://toot.cat/@woozle/110374397973819752 draft reply] to emails (not shown here) about how we decide when a theory is off the table as a premise.
 
==Acknowledgements==
 
==Acknowledgements==
''Thanks to a friend who is a devoted volunteer student of Wikipedia and fringe theories for the bulk of this response.''
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''The bulk of this response is thanks to a friend who is an avid volunteer student of Wikipedia and fringe theories.''

Latest revision as of 21:28, 15 May 2023

This is a response to:

Wikipedia Unfairly Silences Racist Speech

Again with the nonsense...

Just a couple of examples:

Rushton was a racist who took money from a fund (and later become president of the fund before his death) that was founded by a racist who hated desegregation and wanted to prove that Black people were "inferior" by claiming his beliefs were backed by "science" (pro-tip: nope). The founder of the fund (which itself spread a pro-eugenics film) even had a trip to Nazi Germany, a jolly time reportedly being had by all.

Charles Murray cited "sources" that were known racists and eugenics.

There's a little cabal of racist "scientists" all writing in the same journals, reviewing one another, etc. just as there is with "global warming skepticism" and "gender critical feminism".

Follow-Up

  • 2023-05-15 draft reply to emails (not shown here) about how we decide when a theory is off the table as a premise.

Acknowledgements

The bulk of this response is thanks to a friend who is an avid volunteer student of Wikipedia and fringe theories.