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** 1. one is a legitimate target for anger and the other is not | ** 1. one is a legitimate target for anger and the other is not | ||
| − | ** 2. the violence | + | ** 2. in one, the violence was directed against individuals and places of worship; the other was directed only against corporate-owned business property |
** 3. one is a spontaneous expression of rage and the other is an organized effort by literal fascists that is part of a larger plan for genocide | ** 3. one is a spontaneous expression of rage and the other is an organized effort by literal fascists that is part of a larger plan for genocide | ||
** 4. one is punching up, the other punching down | ** 4. one is punching up, the other punching down | ||
A point of clarification: "antifa" is short for "anti-fascism". If you are fighting against fascism, you are antifa; if you are behaving in a fascistic way, you are are by definition not antifa. It's not an organization. | A point of clarification: "antifa" is short for "anti-fascism". If you are fighting against fascism, you are antifa; if you are behaving in a fascistic way, you are are by definition not antifa. It's not an organization. | ||
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===2021-10-30 Jeff Dorscher=== | ===2021-10-30 Jeff Dorscher=== | ||
claimed that CNN didn't cover a thing that they did in fact cover: | claimed that CNN didn't cover a thing that they did in fact cover: | ||
Revision as of 18:26, 2 December 2021
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subject: Nextdoor disinformation log
I don't know why this didn't occur to me before: every time I run across a false or misleading statement in the pol groups here on Nextdoor, I'm going to log it in this post.
Please feel free to add your own in the comments, but please remember to follow the argumentation guidelines (https://issuepedia.org/Issuepedia:Arguing/guidelines) when making counterclaims. If call-outs are themselves found to be wrong or misleading, I will log them here as well (and possibly remove the comment or the commenter, as I see fit) -- so be sure to present your case clearly.
Also, if any of these statements have been retracted, let me know and I will move the claim to a "retracted" area. It's okay to make mistakes; what's not okay is willfully ignoring the evidence against your position.
So far, newest to oldest:
2021-12-01 Dennis Sharp
claimed that Antifa uses tactics no different from Hitler's brownshirts, except in who the "scapegoats" are.
- claim: https://nextdoor.com/p/sc2NZ9x578Qd/c/693483890?utm_source=share
- reality:
- 1. one is a legitimate target for anger and the other is not
- 2. in one, the violence was directed against individuals and places of worship; the other was directed only against corporate-owned business property
- 3. one is a spontaneous expression of rage and the other is an organized effort by literal fascists that is part of a larger plan for genocide
- 4. one is punching up, the other punching down
A point of clarification: "antifa" is short for "anti-fascism". If you are fighting against fascism, you are antifa; if you are behaving in a fascistic way, you are are by definition not antifa. It's not an organization.
2021-10-30 Jeff Dorscher
claimed that CNN didn't cover a thing that they did in fact cover:
- claim: https://nextdoor.com/p/3XnggC45wys3?view=detail
- reality: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/10/30/youngkin-rally-tiki-stunt-lincoln-project-cpt-sot-vpx.cnn (this link is easily findable by searching the web for "CNN Lincoln Project stunt")
2021-10-29 Dennis Sharp
claimed that the inventor of the gerrymander was a Democrat; this is factually wrong, *and* would be irrelevant even if there had been a Democratic Party in 1812 and Gerry had belonged to it.
- claim https://nextdoor.com/p/SMRHFQpFJhQM/c/677720581?utm_source=share
- reality: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbridge_Gerry
2021-09-17 Debbie Balch
posted a screenshot of OANN's "FDA fetal heads" nonsense:
- post: https://nextdoor.com/news_feed/?post=201499872&is=neighbor_profile_27135867
- reality: https://issuepedia.org/FDA_fetal_head_purchase_disinfomeme
Comments
Meg C:
A river of disinformation throughout https://nextdoor.com/p/jmHj59dT_PgP?utm_source=share&extras=MTI3NjkyOA%3D%3D