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Revision as of 16:59, 3 October 2020
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Hoist By Her Own Petard?
- 2020-10-01 01:11 @elcome2ell “Gender identity Ideology harms women and children. It also harms trans people. We end up trying to build our lives on wishful thinking, and belief in "magical invisible properties". No wonder many of us are so fearful and defensive, and lack confidence in society.”
This is by Dr. Debbie Hayton, a trans woman physics professor who... well:
- 2019-12-22 Transgender woman accused of 'hate speech' after wearing t-shirt stating she is still biologically male - "She is now potentially facing expulsion from the LGBT committee of the Trades Union Congress (TUC) for wearing a top adorned with the slogan: “Trans women are men. Get over it!”"
So we have her saying that one's gender identity shouldn't be respected, and that biological sex is all that matters. So by her own logic, I should be calling her "him" and "a man".
Hayton's tweet inspired the following discussion:
- 2020-10-02 13:31 @elcome2ell “who is "we" here? / you're NOT one of us Debs. / stop trying to speak like you are. / if you call yourself a "TiM" or "AGP" you're NOT trans. you aren't part of our community or the TERF community. they by and large loathe you. / consider deleting your account and shutting up.”
- 2020-10-02 13:32I am trans because I say I am trans, and I do not care for your gatekeeping. @DebbieHayton “” elcome2ell didn't say Debbie wasn't trans; she said Debbie wasn't part of the trans community.
misrepresentation by Debbie, there.
- 2020-10-02 15:34 @wendycockcroft “I stand with Debbie for the decency and the common sense.” - um, it's not "decent" to misrepresent arguments against your position
- 2020-10-02 15:36 @elcome2ell “you and debbie can stand in a hole together and live there for all the fucks i give. he's all yours.”
- (quote tweet) 2020-10-02 15:46 @wendycockcroft “Found the transphobe.”
- 2020-10-02 15:36 @elcome2ell “you and debbie can stand in a hole together and live there for all the fucks i give. he's all yours.”
- 2020-10-02 15:34 @wendycockcroft “I stand with Debbie for the decency and the common sense.” - um, it's not "decent" to misrepresent arguments against your position
- 2020-10-02 13:32I am trans because I say I am trans, and I do not care for your gatekeeping. @DebbieHayton “” elcome2ell didn't say Debbie wasn't trans; she said Debbie wasn't part of the trans community.
...except Hayton's position is that trans women men-who-dress-as-women such as herself should be addressed that way, so...
...how is this transphobic?
"Biological Gender" Again
- 2020-10-02 School demands a trans student cut her hair or they’ll kick her out "Senior Sanay Martinez was told she must "adhere to the dress code" for her "biological gender" if she wants to finish high school. "
Guess the biology of her brain doesn't count.
Also, they clearly haven't compared notes with the Gender Criticals, who call it "biological sex", see gender as the enemy, and apparently don't understand what "biological gender" might mean.