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==Feels like 2004 again==
{{show/tweet|wendycockcroft|1293511041704484864|07:33|Ths arrant stupidity in the subtweet is more common than you think. This is what happens when you kick traditional religion out; people go looking for something to replace it with. TWAW, political ideology, etc., provide moral guidance and certainty for their adherents.}}

Oh wow, Wendy shows her true colors.
* '''Claim''': Bad things happen when you get rid of traditional religion
** '''No,''' they don't. People get on with their lives and make better decisions.
* '''Claim''' (implied): It's a religion to believe that trans women are women.
** '''No.'''
*** The idea that trans women are well within the scope of womanhood is backed by science.
*** The idea that trans women should be legally treated as women is backed by science.
* '''Claim''': People need some kind of religion for moral guidance.
** '''No.''' That argument was ''thoroughly'' refuted back in the early 2000s.

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 https://twitter.com/Flashmaggie/status/1293521074001457152

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		+	==Depends What You Mean==
		+	{{show/tweet\|TheFamousArtBR\|1293557287731240962\|10:37\|Rosie Duffield said that Women have cervixes. What’s the problem???? Why exactly did she have to apologise for that?}}
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		+	Reality:
		+	* Most cis women have cervixes. (Some do not.)
		+	* Most trans men also have cervixes.
		+	* Trans women do not have cervixes (not possible with current technology).
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		+	The statement "X have Y" is an {{flag/red\|ambiguous statement}} which can mean either:
		+	* '''All X have Y''' -- but "all women have cervixes" isn't true.
		+	* '''All with Y are X''' -- but "all people with cervixes" isn't true either.
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		+	While there are some other groups of people for whom either of these statements is untrue, it so happens that by far the largest groups are trans women (who don't have cervixes) and trans men (who mostly do).
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		+	I'm sure this fact has nothing to do with any attempt to bait trans people by feigning ignorance over how it is inaccurate.

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	Looking at this from a larger perspective, she's (intentionally or not) revealing the role of "traditional religion" in maintaining the status quo: basically, ''"If traditional religion loses its hold on the public, they'll start getting crazy ideas about '''improving society''', and that's '''not okay'''."'' (There are few things that social conservatives dislike more than "improving society".)		Looking at this from a larger perspective, she's (intentionally or not) revealing the role of "traditional religion" in maintaining the status quo: basically, ''"If traditional religion loses its hold on the public, they'll start getting crazy ideas about '''improving society''', and that's '''not okay'''."'' (There are few things that social conservatives dislike more than "improving society".)
		+	==This Proves Something! Really!==
		+	https://twitter.com/Flashmaggie/status/1293521074001457152

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-[[File:2020-08-12.screen.YouTube preview.How To Use VMware Run Mac OS In PC.png|thumb|'''It's P.C. run-a-Mac!''' (Dancing in the streets! Dogs and cats sleeping together! People marrying toasters! Changing the definition of marriage!)]]
+[[File:2020-08-12.screen.YouTube preview.How To Use VMware Run Mac OS In PC.png|thumb|'''It's [[issuepedia:Political correctness|P.C.]] run-a-Mac!''' (Dancing in the streets! Dogs and cats sleeping together! People marrying toasters! Changing the definition of marriage!)]]
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 ** '''No.''' That argument was ''thoroughly'' refuted back in the early 2000s.
-Looking at this from a larger perspective, she's (intentionally or not) revealing the role of "traditional religion" in maintaining the status quo: she's basically saying ''"If traditional religion loses its hold on the public, they'll start getting crazy ideas about improving society, and that's not okay."'' (There are few things that social conservatives dislike more than "improving society".)
+Looking at this from a larger perspective, she's (intentionally or not) revealing the role of "traditional religion" in maintaining the status quo: basically, ''"If traditional religion loses its hold on the public, they'll start getting crazy ideas about '''improving society''', and that's '''not okay'''."'' (There are few things that social conservatives dislike more than "improving society".)

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-Oh wow, Wendy shows her true colors.
+You mean, the same traditional religion which has oppressed women since time immemorial? Seriously? (She claims to support "women's rights", see [[../03|entry for 3 August]]...)
 * '''Claim''': Bad things happen when you get rid of traditional religion
 ** '''No,''' they don't. People get on with their lives and make better decisions.