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Woozle: Created page with "==Pages== * /transcription: a complete transcription of the lecture in the video ==Links== * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustr..."

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Created page with "==Pages== * /transcription: a complete transcription of the lecture in the video ==Links== * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustr..."

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==Pages==
* [[/transcription]]: a complete transcription of the lecture in the video
==Links==
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated summary]: the video

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 ==Index==
 * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated summary]: the video
 * [[/transcription]]: a complete transcription of the lecture in the video
 * [[/claims]]: listing and analysis of the arguments made in the lecture

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+==Index==
-* The term "liberalism" was stolen by the enemies of liberalism; modern libertarians are the true liberals. ([[/transcription#1|&para;1]])
+* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated summary]: the video
 * [[/transcription]]: a complete transcription of the lecture in the video
-==Links==
+* [[/claims]]: listing and analysis of the arguments made in the lecture

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 * [[Anti-governmentism/private is better|Where the same thing can be done either by government or privately, private is usually better.]] ([[/transcription#3|&para;3]] [[/transcription#16|&para;16]] [[/transcription#21|&para;23]] [[/transcription#30|&para;30]])
 ** Private markets produce better products than socialist systems do -- "we expect markets to produce better cars than socialist systems". ([[/transcription#16|&para;16]])
-*** Objection: it's not clear what definition of "{{l/ip|socialism}}" he's using here.
+*** Objection: it's not clear what definition of "[[socialism]]" he's using here.
 **** Europe (especially Sweden) is often called "socialist", but they produce pretty good cars.
 ** objection: This ignores the fact that there are some things government does better and private organizations do worse. While it may be that the REA/AA scheme will in fact do better than government, we can't assume that this will be so just because "private is better".

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	* The term "liberalism" was stolen by the enemies of liberalism; modern libertarians are the true liberals. ([[/transcription#1\|¶1]])		* The term "liberalism" was stolen by the enemies of liberalism; modern libertarians are the true liberals. ([[/transcription#1\|¶1]])

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 ** objection: This ignores the fact that there are some things government does better and private organizations do worse. While it may be that the REA/AA scheme will in fact do better than government, we can't assume that this will be so just because "private is better".
 *** response: For the most part, Friedman does support his conclusions with reasoning.
-**** objection: It just needs to be understood that this reasoning is necessary. We can't just ''assume'' that the private organizations will do better than government because they are private organizations.
+**** objection: It just needs to be understood that this reasoning applies only to individual cases. We can't just ''assume'' that the private organizations will do better than government ''just'' because they are private organizations -- because for many tasks (e.g. healthcare), government does a far better job.
 ** (DF[[/transcription#21|&para;23]]) on a free market, your choice affects what you get -- whereas in a democracy, your choice has vanishingly small effect.
 * (DF's main argument) The basic functions of government can be handled privately:

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 ==Claims==
 * The term "liberalism" was stolen by the enemies of liberalism; modern libertarians are the true liberals. ([[/transcription#1|&para;1]])
 * Libertarianism (formerly called liberalism) is the philosophy that supports [[small government]] and [[free market]]s. ([[/transcription#1|&para;1]])
 * Libertarianism holds that the function of government is to do a few things that can't be done by individuals associating voluntarily in private markets: ([[/transcription#2|&para;2]])
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 ** national defense
 * [[Anti-governmentism/private is better|Where the same thing can be done either by government or privately, private is usually better.]] ([[/transcription#3|&para;3]] [[/transcription#16|&para;16]] [[/transcription#21|&para;23]] [[/transcription#30|&para;30]])
 ** objection: This ignores the fact that there are some things government does better and private organizations do worse. While it may be that the REA/AA scheme will in fact do better than government, we can't assume that this will be so just because "private is better".
 *** response: For the most part, Friedman does support his conclusions with reasoning.
 **** objection: It just needs to be understood that this reasoning is necessary. We can't just ''assume'' that the private organizations will do better than government because they are private organizations.
-* (Main argument) The basic functions of government can be handled privately:
+* (DF's main argument) The basic functions of government can be handled privately:
 ** '''police''' (enforcing laws)
 *** individuals hire private firms (rights enforcement agencies - REAs) to protect their rights and settle their disputes with other individual
 **** objection (DF[[/transcription#6|&para;6]]): conflict between REAs
 ***** objection detail (DF[[/transcription#7|&para;7]]): REAs will use violence to settle their disputes
-******* response (DF[[/transcription#8|&para;8]]): violence is expensive -- REAs are not likely to use it to settle conflicts because in the long term it's a losing proposition with uneven results
+****** response (DF[[/transcription#8|&para;8]]): violence is expensive -- REAs are not likely to use it to settle conflicts because in the long term it's a losing proposition with uneven results
-******** objection (W): What if an REA is unreasonable?
+******* objection (W): What if an REA is unreasonable?
-***** response (DF[[/transcription#9|&para;9]]): REAs will hire arbitration agencies (AAs) to settle their disputes with other REAs
+***** response (DF[[/transcription#9|&para;9]][[/transcription#13|&para;13]]): REAs will hire arbitration agencies (AAs) to settle their disputes with other REAs
 ** '''courts''' (making laws) - handled by arbitration agencies (AAs)
 *** objection (DF[[/transcription#11|&para;11]]): who will enforce the use of AAs and adherence to their decisions?
-**** response: the [[discipline of constant dealings]]
+**** response (DF[[/transcription#11|&para;11]]): the [[discipline of constant dealings]]
-***** objection (W): ...which requires a highly stable, non-transient society
+***** objection (W): ...which requires a highly stable, non-transient society -- which we don't have now, and which there is no reason to expect would be delivered by this system
 *** objection (DF[[/transcription#17|&para;17]],W): What if two REAs can't agree on an arbiter? (e.g. what if one REA's customers prefer a death penalty, while another REA's customers are opposed?)
 **** response (DF[[/transcription#18|&para;18]]): an argument that has something to do with raising prices in response to demand and/or buying the acquiescence of the other and/or its customers. This doesn't really answer the question.
-** <s>national defense</s> (not covered)
+***** objection (W): To the extent that the argument is relevant, however, it seems to depend on everyone having similar amounts of money -- otherwise a view can prevail because of the holder's wealth rather than the degree of their conviction that they are right.
-* It's okay for different sets of people/entities to operate under different sets of rules, because:
+** <s>national defense</s> (not covered; conceded that privatizing this is an easier problem to solve)
-** any rules applicable to any given interaction can be worked out and agreed to non-coercively via this method
+* objection (DF([[/transcription#13|&para;13]]): Under this system, different sets of people/entities will operate under different sets of rules. Isn't that unfair?
-** rules will be more closely tailored to the needs of the people ruled by them ([[/transcription#20|&para;20]])
+** response (DF([[/transcription#13|&para;13]])): Actually it's an improvement, because:
-* Rules created by private negotiation will be better than those produced by government because {{l/sub|private is better|anti-governmentism}}.
+*** we already live under a system where rules vary (by state, munucipality, etc). ([[/transcription#13|&para;13]])
-* Private markets produce better products than socialist systems do -- "we expect markets to produce better cars than socialist systems".
+*** any rules needed for any given interaction can be worked out non-coercively via this method ([[/transcription#15|&para;15]])
-** Objection: it's not clear what definition of "socialism" he's using here.
+*** rules will be more closely tailored to the needs of the people ruled by them -- people will only get the rules they want ([[/transcription#20|&para;20]])
 ==Pages==
 * [[/transcription]]: a complete transcription of the lecture in the video
 ==Links==
 * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated summary]: the video