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		<title>Woozle: expanded/clarified a bit</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;expanded/clarified a bit&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 19:19, 21 July 2015&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l4&quot; &gt;Line 4:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If the argument is that ''nobody should have to follow rules they don't agree with'' &amp;amp;ndash; a frequent contention of [[marketist]] (aka &amp;quot;voluntarist&amp;quot;) philosophy &amp;amp;ndash; then this is an attack on the basic idea of government and civil society in general, wherein agents of the government may use force to prevent individuals from committing acts that have been determined to be unacceptable.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If the argument is that ''nobody should have to follow rules they don't agree with'' &amp;amp;ndash; a frequent contention of [[marketist]] (aka &amp;quot;voluntarist&amp;quot;) philosophy &amp;amp;ndash; then this is an attack on the basic idea of government and civil society in general, wherein agents of the government may use force to prevent individuals from committing acts that have been determined to be unacceptable.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Unfortunately, any group must make decisions that &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;affect &lt;/del&gt;all or most of its members; to not make a decision is to &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;choose one alternative&lt;/del&gt;. There will always be &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;actions &lt;/del&gt;a few find acceptable or even necessary that will be condemned by the majority, and some of those &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;actions &lt;/del&gt;will truly be harmful to the group. Not making a decision to do anything about these actions allows them, and the harm they do, to continue.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Unfortunately, any group must make decisions that &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;are binding on &lt;/ins&gt;all or most of its members; to not make a decision is &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;equivalent &lt;/ins&gt;to &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;choosing inaction&lt;/ins&gt;. There will always be &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;acts that &lt;/ins&gt;a few find acceptable or even necessary &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;but &lt;/ins&gt;that will be condemned by the majority, and some of those &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;acts ''&lt;/ins&gt;will truly be harmful&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;'' &lt;/ins&gt;to the group. Not making a decision to do anything about these actions allows them, and the harm they do, to continue&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;. Being able to make decisions that obligate everyone in the group is essential for group prosperity and even survival&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;That said, there are numerous examples illustrating both &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;sides of &lt;/del&gt;this &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;argument &lt;/del&gt;&amp;amp;ndash; good or harmless actions condemned by a majority (e.g. homosexuality, for much of its history), and harmful actions rejected by a minority but endorsed by the majority (e.g. slavery). The fact that this is true is why ''simple'' majority rule cannot prevail. There must be some kind of ''process'' that helps to &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;weed out ''&lt;/del&gt;harmful&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;'' actions &lt;/del&gt;and support &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;ones &lt;/del&gt;that &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;are actually ''helpful''&lt;/del&gt;, regardless of whether &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;they are &lt;/del&gt;supported by the majority &amp;amp;ndash; and &amp;quot;tyranny of the majority&amp;quot; is, when used properly, an argument for the necessity of such processes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;That said, there are numerous examples illustrating both &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;harm and benefit from following &lt;/ins&gt;this &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;principle to the letter &lt;/ins&gt;&amp;amp;ndash; good or harmless actions condemned by a majority (e.g. homosexuality, for much of its history), and harmful actions rejected by a minority but endorsed by the majority (e.g. slavery). The fact that this is true is why ''simple'' majority rule cannot prevail. There must be some kind of ''process'' that helps to &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;determine whether a given action is helpful or &lt;/ins&gt;harmful and &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;then &lt;/ins&gt;support &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;or oppose it on &lt;/ins&gt;that &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;basis&lt;/ins&gt;, regardless of whether &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;it is &lt;/ins&gt;supported by the majority &amp;amp;ndash; and &amp;quot;tyranny of the majority&amp;quot; is, when used properly, an argument for the necessity of such processes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;It is ''not'' a valid argument against governmental [[Marketism/coercion|coercion]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;It is ''not''&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;, however, &lt;/ins&gt;a valid argument against governmental [[Marketism/coercion|coercion]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
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		<title>Woozle: Created page with &quot;category:anti-government {{hdr/subject|&quot;Tyranny of the majority&quot; as an attack on government}}  If the argument is that ''nobody should have to follow rules they don't agre...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2015-07-21T19:08:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/w/index.php?title=Category:Anti-government&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Category:Anti-government (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;category:anti-government&lt;/a&gt; {{hdr/subject|&amp;quot;Tyranny of the majority&amp;quot; as an attack on government}}  If the argument is that &amp;#039;&amp;#039;nobody should have to follow rules they don&amp;#039;t agre...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[category:anti-government]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{hdr/subject|&amp;quot;Tyranny of the majority&amp;quot; as an attack on government}}&lt;br /&gt;
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If the argument is that ''nobody should have to follow rules they don't agree with'' &amp;amp;ndash; a frequent contention of [[marketist]] (aka &amp;quot;voluntarist&amp;quot;) philosophy &amp;amp;ndash; then this is an attack on the basic idea of government and civil society in general, wherein agents of the government may use force to prevent individuals from committing acts that have been determined to be unacceptable.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately, any group must make decisions that affect all or most of its members; to not make a decision is to choose one alternative. There will always be actions a few find acceptable or even necessary that will be condemned by the majority, and some of those actions will truly be harmful to the group. Not making a decision to do anything about these actions allows them, and the harm they do, to continue.&lt;br /&gt;
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That said, there are numerous examples illustrating both sides of this argument &amp;amp;ndash; good or harmless actions condemned by a majority (e.g. homosexuality, for much of its history), and harmful actions rejected by a minority but endorsed by the majority (e.g. slavery). The fact that this is true is why ''simple'' majority rule cannot prevail. There must be some kind of ''process'' that helps to weed out ''harmful'' actions and support ones that are actually ''helpful'', regardless of whether they are supported by the majority &amp;amp;ndash; and &amp;quot;tyranny of the majority&amp;quot; is, when used properly, an argument for the necessity of such processes.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is ''not'' a valid argument against governmental [[Marketism/coercion|coercion]].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
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