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		<title>Woozle: NAP</title>
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		<updated>2015-03-21T22:35:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;NAP&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 22:35, 21 March 2015&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Marketists argue&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1 /&amp;gt; that there is never any cause &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;for the initiation of &lt;/del&gt;{{l/same|violence}}&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;,&lt;/del&gt;&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1a /&amp;gt; but also that ''threats'' to initiate violence qualify as initiation of violence&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1b /&amp;gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Marketists argue&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1 /&amp;gt; that there is never any &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;just &lt;/ins&gt;cause &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;to '''initiate &lt;/ins&gt;{{l/same|violence}}&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;'''&lt;/ins&gt;&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1a /&amp;gt; &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;(also known as the {{l/same|non-aggression principle}}) &lt;/ins&gt;but also that ''threats'' to initiate violence qualify as initiation of violence&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1b /&amp;gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This leaves open the following questions:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This leaves open the following questions:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
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		<id>https://cwre.org/w/index.php?title=Marketism/initiation_of_violence&amp;diff=629&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Woozle: &quot;violence&quot; needs at least a definitional note</title>
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		<updated>2015-03-21T21:36:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;violence&amp;quot; needs at least a definitional note&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 21:36, 21 March 2015&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Marketists argue&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1 /&amp;gt; that there is never any cause for the initiation of violence,&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1a /&amp;gt; but also that ''threats'' to initiate violence qualify as initiation of violence&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1b /&amp;gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Marketists argue&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1 /&amp;gt; that there is never any cause for the initiation of &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;{{l/same|&lt;/ins&gt;violence&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;}}&lt;/ins&gt;,&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1a /&amp;gt; but also that ''threats'' to initiate violence qualify as initiation of violence&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1b /&amp;gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This leaves open the following questions:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This leaves open the following questions:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
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	<entry>
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		<title>Woozle: Created page with &quot;Marketists argue&lt;ref name=gplus1 /&gt; that there is never any cause for the initiation of violence,&lt;ref name=gplus1a /&gt; but also that ''threats'' to initiate violence qualify as...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2015-03-21T21:30:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Marketists argue&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1 /&amp;gt; that there is never any cause for the initiation of violence,&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1a /&amp;gt; but also that &amp;#039;&amp;#039;threats&amp;#039;&amp;#039; to initiate violence qualify as...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Marketists argue&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1 /&amp;gt; that there is never any cause for the initiation of violence,&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1a /&amp;gt; but also that ''threats'' to initiate violence qualify as initiation of violence&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1b /&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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This leaves open the following questions:&lt;br /&gt;
* Does ''any'' lethal threat qualify, or is there a &amp;quot;credibility&amp;quot; criterion?&lt;br /&gt;
** If a threat must be credible, how do we make that determination?&lt;br /&gt;
* Is escalation acceptable (i.e. responding with greater force than was threatened)?&lt;br /&gt;
** If so, is there any limit on how much escalation is acceptable?&lt;br /&gt;
==Sources==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1&amp;gt;'''2015-03-21''' [https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/109185295204629063487/+Bitchypundit/posts/JDe1W2RZAqj comments on Google+]:&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1a&amp;gt;''ibid.'' &amp;quot;i would never accept anybody or any institution that would initiate violence.. PERIOD!.... there is never any adequate cause.﻿&amp;quot; &amp;amp;mdash; Dean R Black&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref name=gplus1b&amp;gt;''ibid.'' &amp;quot;Threats of violence are considered initiation of force +CWRE, just a fraud is still theft and ''plotting'' a crime is still a crime and not &amp;quot;free speech&amp;quot;.﻿&amp;quot; &amp;amp;mdash; Allballz&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/references&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Woozle</name></author>
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