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Claims
Source Posts
2015-05-30 Texas Senate green-lights campus carry - much gun-nuttery
- 2014-04-04 Here’s What Happened to Crime in Chicago After Illinois Finally Passed Concealed Carry Law
- The article linked to as a source for the claim about reduced crime is no longer there, but may be available on the Wayback Machine. Wolfram-Alpha only goes up to 2009.
Lots of potential material in this post:
- Loaded questions:
- Q: If you think a “no guns” sign is sufficient, why do we have metal detectors at airports?
- A: It's sufficient in a public park, where someone with a gun could only kill dozens of people; used to take over an airplane, a gun could potentially kill thousands (as in 9/11). (This is so obvious it shouldn't have to be explained.)
- Q: You think if you don’t see a gun on a person, he doesn’t have one?
- A: No. The ability to have someone removed if a gun is spotted acts as a deterrent.
- Q: "If I walk in one door with a gun on my hip, walk through the room, and out the opposite door, how did that harm you?"
- A: This is equivalent to asking "If I do something dangerous but it comes out okay, then who have I harmed?". It should be obvious that this is not a responsible question.
- Q: If you think a “no guns” sign is sufficient, why do we have metal detectors at airports?
- Bogus arguments:
- "when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" variations:
- "Putting up a sign at a park can only ever stop law-abiding people from bringing their guns into the park."
- (The basic argument here is that laws don't act as a deterrent to criminals; that claim is explored here.)
- "...the people we really don't want to have guns in those areas are the same people who would ignore the ban. "
- (Even just reducing the number of law-abiding citizens carrying guns would be a good thing, as this would reduce the number of accidental gun deaths.)
- "Putting up a sign at a park can only ever stop law-abiding people from bringing their guns into the park."
- Anti-gun sentiment is just bigotry - "your statement sounds dangerously close to the same kind of wording you see republicans using when talking about gays."
- (The implied equivalence is incorrect; guns are actually harmful.)
- "when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" variations:
Reality
- 2013-04-07 Debunking 18 Pro-Gun Myths